severe muscle loss

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daisy — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:18:21 GMT

thanks vicky

we are still waiting for the histo results but he's settled in so well think this is his forever home lol

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Vicky RVN — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:34:43 GMT

I hope the dog does ok x

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dinkyd — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:17:36 GMT

The muscle wastage associated with cancers is called cachexia (think thats the right spelling!)

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:16:34 GMT

well that sounds a bit better

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daisy — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:07:59 GMT

the vet has spoken to a collegue who has seen this condition in spaniels before, they get the muscle wastage without the pain so as long as the histo comes back ok we are just hoping for the best!!!!

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:20:59 GMT

how did you get on Daisy ?

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Nicola Smith — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:44:07 GMT

Have seen this in a GSD with cancer of some description - cant remember what - I think the muscle wastage did spread after a whie.

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Claire Cameron — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:29:30 GMT

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its Eosinophillic Myositis the name of the condition I was thinking of( just looked in my notes) if its the same as the dogs I have seen - it isnt good news i'm afraid if it is - but hopefully it is something treatable rather than this

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I have seen this in a Rottweiller before, didn't have a happy ending

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daisy — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:46:48 GMT

i dont know cus he had the lumps removed by his owner at another vets, she refused to keep him in the house and the larger wound broke down and instead of having it debrided and resutured wanted him PTS'ed!!! thats how th erescue got involved and he came to me!!!

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loobylou — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:32:18 GMT

We've recently seen temporal muscle mass loss in a staffi following an rts and our vet spoke to a neurologist who said it can be to do with nerve damage but poss also can be idiopathic.
A few months down the line our staffi has all his muscle back and looks really well. If I remember tomorrow I'll have a read up of his notes.

Is it possible there was any nerve damge when removing the facial mass?

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daisy — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:31:41 GMT

thanks sal

will speak to the vet about it tomorow

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:23:22 GMT

just found this if it helps

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1755&S=1&SourceID=42

hope things work out for your dog. If it helps at all PEG tube we found was the best way of getting in sufficient fluid and calories while giving the dog a chance to respond to treatment. pm me if you think I can help at all.

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:09:23 GMT

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daisy — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:00:06 GMT

yes that sounds like wat the vet was saying!!!

god i hope hes going to be ok!!!

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:56:26 GMT

yes have seen this twice - once in a young jrt and the other was an middleaged spaniel cross who we really really tried with. i am trying to remember the name of the condition but failing. sadly both dogs became progressively worse and yes at first the mouth did seem painful to open but then progressed to where the dog just wasnt able to open mouth at all (we were giving a GA to fit a PEG tube in the younger dog and even under GA couldnt get the mouth open) vet in the jrt case suggested it might be some sort of tetanus

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Saskia Quinn — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:41:45 GMT

Firstly, good for you fostering a wee geriatric Wont that be lovely to spend the rest of your days being well looked after!

Cant help you with the face thing, the only time I have seen severe muscle wastage is in fractured limbs, where it has been in support and not been used for some time. Is it possible that its due to the masses being removed? Maybe they were taking up more space than thought?

Maybe someone else will be able to offer you something better!

Good luck and for the wee man