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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/clinical-discussions/7661/fortol-liquid-feed</link><description> I just discovered that fortol is discontinued. what is everyone else using now for their tube feeds. (other than the waltham powdered stuff- it&amp;#39;s no good for thin tubes.) 
 i&amp;#39;m looking into ensure- its a human product i used to use many moons ago. </description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142853?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 23:51:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:04c42bfd-4d91-4a92-8bde-8a208b3ee8d7</guid><dc:creator>danielle83</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We use entralcare and find it suitable for most feeding tubes. I&amp;#39;m sure you have considered this already but if you can&amp;#39;t obtain through dunlops do you have good relationships with neighbouring practice&amp;#39;s that may use alternative wholesaler? It appears readily available from centaur. It is also available in a formula suitable to renal dysfunction in cats. :-)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142851?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 22:20:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:57c19662-d6ec-434f-aaa1-6d348060ee15</guid><dc:creator>Caroline Boothroyd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we use RCW conval for the kitties as it will go down a 10fg o-tube. but anything smaller would be the feline e-care which I have about 5 cans left of!!! and we use it for Naso-O tubes only....its hidden ;-)&amp;nbsp; we&amp;#39;re pretty lucky that we usually only use a O-Tubes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;have you had any feed back from Krusse about when the feline e-care will be back!!??&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/141160?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:19:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:05593447-1314-41a1-b36f-46c5a989158d</guid><dc:creator>Andrew Groom</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Claire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;350453 Enteralcare KC Feline HS code (KRENT03)&amp;nbsp; 350454 Enteral care KC Canine (KRENT04) if you have issues contact kruuse we have stock 01977681523&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can also use Oralade (350240) for day 1 canine or feline HS (KRORA01) Free access or as ice cubes for cats&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me know if you have problems&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andrew&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/140106?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:55:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:17d0a47d-47af-410b-ade8-5f2e1ea41cdb</guid><dc:creator>Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for your reply steph, the contents seem to be the same, including taurine, but the fat and protein levels are lower in the canine one.

Two of my medics are looking into an alternative.

I agree though that none of these liquid type diets are perfect, but ofr N/O tubes it may be better than nothing in the short term. 

We are blending patient specific diets anyway for our oes and gastro tubes.

cheers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/140085?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:05:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:731234ab-2535-4c09-8e0b-d1df74b01486</guid><dc:creator>Steph Worsley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I got 100% fed up with the in and out of stock of the liquid diets and the fact they aren&amp;#39;t fantastic really.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We now blend the most suitable diet for the patient and then tell the owners how to do it as well....the only tube that we don&amp;#39;t do this for is NG tubes as even I can&amp;#39;t get it thin enough without increasing the volume hugely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding using the canine enteral care instead of feline my concern would be the taurine issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/140074?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:38:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:f15a64de-1ea2-4143-86cd-fbeb797a3ce1</guid><dc:creator>Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;thanks stuart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/140071?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:58:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:9bacf024-24d4-4a8a-9f84-a8a258dc0fad</guid><dc:creator>Stuart Ford-Fennah</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;HI,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You should speak to your krusse rep as they are the importers of enteral care - comes from the states...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;stu&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/140065?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:44:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:7649794d-ef10-487f-bbf0-b59e930aa89a</guid><dc:creator>Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Guys, once again we have supply problems with rcw conv support and enteralcare feline. 

what are your thoughts on using enteralcare k9 for cats??

My thoughts are that as conv support is for cats and dogs, and ensure is human, then i think enteralcare k9 will prob be ok. 

i cannot find a data sheet anywhere on eneteralcare feline to compare it tho.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/77071?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 01:18:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:820038fd-ab38-4daf-8223-b63ef884076c</guid><dc:creator>Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;i think you get ensure from the chemist, try calling a local on to ask. cheers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/76866?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:16:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:2978249e-8c6c-425c-b9d1-9442dd3c6b30</guid><dc:creator>Claire  Cameron</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#39;t get a hold of enteralcare or clinicare&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We use Dunlops anyone got any other alternatives? &lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/new/Crying_smiley.gif" alt="Crying" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75928?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:55:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:3ab4b087-ad41-4f05-9b32-11ffb91f6e2c</guid><dc:creator>sarah collins</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We use Enteralcare too, half the price of Fortol. 1kcal/ml so easy calculation. Comes in Medium level protein (dogs) and high level protein (cats). Works really well even with the smallest tubes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75182?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:14:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:729040ea-95c4-46f5-b208-8f826a74661a</guid><dc:creator>Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Doolally&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we use enteralcare, available through NVS&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;thanks i&amp;#39;ll look into that as we use nvs&lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/new/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Big Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75153?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:11:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:dcd19c6d-2775-47e6-85da-ce1d1b5b08de</guid><dc:creator>Doolally</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;we use enteralcare, available through NVS&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75130?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:15:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:24d6a1b8-6c3f-4a08-9b2d-8c56c009daf9</guid><dc:creator>Maisy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We had some Clinicare sent in as replacement items but looking it up, I&amp;#39;m not sure if its that freely available otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75111?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:42:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:d779a9ce-aec7-4175-b9a2-a45f4aa15b23</guid><dc:creator>A Little TLC</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Use ensure lots, lots of flavours too!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75110?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:41:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:1a727be3-8b05-4887-ba88-44fb254a1edd</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I can remember using Ensure when reanymyl went off the market and it seemed a pretty good substitute, dont recall we had any problems with its use&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75107?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:34:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:f0f2bdba-12b5-4ad4-9c66-8d6e30342e49</guid><dc:creator>Steph Worsley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;HUH!!!!!! we use it all the time NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: FORTOL LIQUID FEED</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/75105?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:27:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:aac46932-1f36-46a2-9d29-502460be2a2c</guid><dc:creator>Claire  Cameron</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/new/Oh_my_God_smiley.png" alt="Surprise" /&gt; ahhh we were going to order some in this week. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are currently using Liquivite but it&amp;#39;s same consistency of really watered A/D which isn&amp;#39;t the easiest to tube. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ARGH I&amp;#39;m so annoyed Fortol has d/c. I really wanted some this week &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, no help in this post at all&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>