vet leaves artery forceps inside rottie

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Angiy Michael — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:21:24 GMT

Here you go ..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8496502.stm

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Kim Buckley — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:00:14 GMT

We don't use x-ray swabs as we make our own. We are very careful to count them though!

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albatross — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:55:54 GMT

we use non-xray ones but then we don't have an xray facility to check any problems, and nor are our clients likely to pay for xrays at full price practices, or only on rare occasions and then it's usually when we've seen them for the first time with suspected broken limbs and referred them

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Vicky RVN — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:22:29 GMT

We don't! Our abdominal swabs are but our normal swabs aren't. More than likely to do with cost

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Nick Shackleton — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:09:23 GMT

I think it's scary that some practice still use non-x-ray swabs!!!

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albatross — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:08:02 GMT

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I've never counted instruments out of a patient. Always swabs, but never anything else.

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at one place I worked, I was told to tidy up theatre after use. I was shown where to put instruments, and where to dispose of stuff (this was early on in my nursing experience). On one occasion I thought I'd made a great job of tidying up. The following day I was asked if I'd seen 5 (yes FIVE) missing instruments......think they thought I'd pocketed them.
I stated that all instruments I'd seen were placed on the sink ready to be dealt with after I had washed and sterilised them (I didn't bag kit at that time so didn't know how many or what type of instruments made up each kit).
the only excuse I could offer was that I had thrown the entire contents of the kick bucket into the clinical waste bag - and maybe the vet had put the instruments in there on a drape ...... maybe they were in the patient though?????

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Sal the 1st — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:03:00 GMT

have seen the results of a suture needle left inside a cat spay

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Sarah Nicholas — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:53:05 GMT

same - we count swabs but not kit.

That's a scary article poor pup!!!

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Louise B — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:40:07 GMT

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Out of curiosity, what are peoples count policies? Do you? I'm used to scrub nurses signing their lives away with full count sheets for instruments set pre and post surgery and swabs, sharps, packing towels etc etc,. If it could get lost, it gets counted!

Worryingly, counting isn't foolproof and in human surgery there are up to 5000 incidents of retained foreign objects/year in UK. Given this was an incidental finding, I wonder how many more artery forceps in dogs there are out there!?

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I've never counted instruments out of a patient. Always swabs, but never anything else.

Re: vet leaves artery forceps inside rottie

sisterscope1 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:13:35 GMT

A Gossypiboma - deriving from the Greek for cotton Gossypium and boma, Swahili for place of concealment!

I've seen quite a few, usually requiring extensive resection of bladders, kidneys, colons you name it.

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Izzie — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:08:11 GMT

I read about it in the News of the World, paper said that they went back to same vet practice and the vet that had left forceps in paid for the surgery to have the forceps removed.

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Claire Cameron — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:06:34 GMT

We had a dog a few years ago with a wound on the side that tracked to the abdomen, turned out the local neutering clinic had left a swab in (about 3years prior) and the swab had attached to the kidney...dog ended up needing kidney removed

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sisterscope1 — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:03:47 GMT

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Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:58:11 GMT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8496502.stm

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Nick Shackleton — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:55:15 GMT

BINGO http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8496502.stm

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albatross — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:49:43 GMT

I can't find anything online about the article. It was on the BBC South East news but it's not on the BBC Iplayer.

All I know is that the dog must have gone to a different vet recently and for nothing to do with the original problem. The owner appeared to have two rotties in the clip. Don't know if it was a boy or girl. Don't know what the original operation was - could have been spay, or FB for example as they didn't say.
I know the name of the vet practice who did the original operation. I also know the practice that was interviewed about their opinion on the lack of observation but I don't think they were the ones doing the second operation.

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Vicky RVN — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:24:59 GMT

God that's awful!

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Kim Buckley — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:06:00 GMT

A friend told me that they were x-raying a rotti for a hip replacement and they found a pair of artery forceps in it's abdomen left over from when it was spayed. Wonder if this is the same dog.....

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Kerry Spain — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:01:51 GMT

is there a link to the article?