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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Anal gland expression classification by RCVS</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/clinical-discussions/31803/anal-gland-expression-classification-by-rcvs</link><description> Hi all, 
 A few years ago I approached the RCVS about performing anal gland expressions outside of practice. They informed me that it is classified as a schedule 3 act as you enter a body cavity. 
 Surely by this logic, we shouldn&amp;#39;t perform temperature</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Anal gland expression classification by RCVS</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/175368?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:02:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:616bbdd4-031a-4514-98d8-45544a26a40f</guid><dc:creator>apache</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#39;s 2 places where I think you are allowed to do it, if you go to schedule 3:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is expressing anal glands a minor medical treatment? If you are paid by an owner to do a job I assume that legally makes you in their employment&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Any minor medical treatment given to an animal by its owner, by another member of the household of which the owner is a member or by a person in the employment of the owner.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do full anal glands lead to pain and suffering? If so there is also another exemption:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The rendering in an emergency of first aid for the purpose of saving life or relieving pain or suffering.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really cannot see you getting a complaint for inserting a finger into a rectum. Perhaps run it past VDS if you have their cover with a note of these parts of the VSA 1966.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The rectum is NOT a body cavity&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cavity"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cavity&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Anal gland expression classification by RCVS</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/175365?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:31:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:8bf369cf-9012-4cb8-9031-c6c01cb1ef83</guid><dc:creator>Tania Ford</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I had to contact the RCVS about this one before as i needed clarification. It is classified as schedule 3 but.......so long as you have been delegated the task by a VS, it is ok to continue doing so whilst that pet is still &amp;#39;under the care of a VS at that practice&amp;#39;. Most practices now get the vet to mark it on the animals records that they are happy for a RVN or SVN (if supervised) to undertake this task.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With regards to groomers still expressing AG&amp;#39;s, external expression is still OK, but the groomer may not place a finger inside the rectum to perform it. Places like The Groom Room have now stopped offering the service completely and direct them to an in store V4P practice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Anal gland expression classification by RCVS</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/175362?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 02:01:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:bbc2d9a7-371a-455a-8bae-0a2ce2553e6c</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;apache&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think RCVS guide is wrong, and this is a minor procedure. I&amp;#39;ve taught a heap of owners to do it that way.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I know of many owners who have been taught how to empty their dog&amp;#39;s anal glands and then there are the groomers that also empty anal glands. I have never really understood how this became a sched 3? I will say that in the past, before the rules changed, I have picked up on two anal gland tumours in different dogs which were referred on to the vet. I have never diagnosed just mentioned to owners that I was having difficulty emptying them and I know in at least one of those cases I would have been a lot less likely to have picked up on it with an external expression.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m not going to fight anybody for the privilege of squeezing a dog&amp;#39;s bum but sometimes the &amp;#39;rules&amp;#39; do seem a bit odd.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I used to work for a vet whose interpretation of sched 3 was that nurses couldn&amp;#39;t do anything that might mean they encounter blood - including taking blood, placing cannulas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Anal gland expression classification by RCVS</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/175351?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:31:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:e780a79a-57e2-4911-a627-977e4a308f26</guid><dc:creator>apache</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Lauren Gray&amp;quot;]They informed me that it is classified as a schedule 3 act as you enter a body cavity.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the key issues of schedule 3 is that a VN cannot enter a body cavity..........&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Personally you can empty them externally according to the RCVS guidance. No reason you can&amp;#39;t offer EAG as a service, no one is going to be watching your technique that closely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think RCVS guide is wrong, and this is a minor procedure. I&amp;#39;ve taught a heap of owners to do it that way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>