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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Capnogram/CO2 Waveform Interpretation</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/clinical-discussions/31695/capnogram-co2-waveform-interpretation</link><description> Hi guys. 
 We’ve finally got our capnograph up and running which I am super happy about! Apparently if you see a ‘shark fin’-shaped waveform this could been obstruction of some kind. If you see this sort of waveform what should you do? Would you reintubate</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Capnogram/CO2 Waveform Interpretation</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/174836?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 13:35:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:4a21b342-21b7-42f1-b5b5-de09092cd6b5</guid><dc:creator>Susanna Taylor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Great to hear you have a capnograph, and even more so that you are looking at it and thinking about it.&lt;img src="/emoticons/new/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Firstly, just be sure you are looking at a shark fin, and not a &amp;#39;hill shaped&amp;#39; graph.&amp;nbsp; The latter is quite common in cats because of a dilution effect of the sample flow compared to the MV (assuming you have side stream).&amp;nbsp; With a hill shape, you cannot get rid of it in cats, so just consider that ETCO2 is actually a little higher.&amp;nbsp; In dogs it usually means a leak around the cuff, or too high FGF.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Assuming it is a shark fin, I agree with the above info.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes i have seen it where the tube is rotated so the end is against the side of the trachea, instead of facing the lumen.&amp;nbsp; Particularly if there is no Murphy&amp;#39;s eye in the tube.&amp;nbsp; A gentle rotation of the tube can sort it.&amp;nbsp; If I hear gurgles from mucus I would ask VS if we can suction or ideally reintubate.&amp;nbsp; I have seen some just give a few IPPV instead to clear it (but where does the mucus go then...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall, consider a) is it increasing ETCO2 and b) is respiratory (expiratory) effort looking particularly increased? If neither, I would be happy to consider it a &amp;#39;report and keep an eye on it situation&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep up the great work&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="/emoticons/new/Thumbs_up.png" alt="Thumbs up" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Capnogram/CO2 Waveform Interpretation</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/174835?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 11:05:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:c1549b53-67ab-43b3-8f0e-5ee84e0fcc79</guid><dc:creator>Claire Coulthard RVN </dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;lou the vetnurse on facebook has a very handy pocket sized cheat sheet for capnography too&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Capnogram/CO2 Waveform Interpretation</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/174834?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 09:57:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:4cbe0dcb-56c5-4bbc-95ed-b6241b98bc38</guid><dc:creator>James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes you can get similar waveforms with asthma and other restrictive airway diseases like pulmonary fibrosis (&amp;#39;Westie Lung&amp;#39;) - if there&amp;#39;s any doubt with the tube personally I would like to get it out and check/replace it - what was the bag doing?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Capnogram/CO2 Waveform Interpretation</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/174833?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 08:15:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:4e5b64c8-ab05-4bed-bf46-130e760f8c28</guid><dc:creator>Alice Weaver</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks. I found a good handbook here:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.oem.respironics.com/wp/CapnographyReferenceHandbook_OEM1220A.pdf"&gt;http://www.oem.respironics.com/wp/CapnographyReferenceHandbook_OEM1220A.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.oem.respironics.com/wp/CapnographyReferenceHandbook_OEM1220A.pdf"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I&amp;rsquo;d like to know is what to do if you suspect ET tube obstruction during an anaesthetic. Do you remove the tube to check it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last week we had a 21 year old cat with unknown history under anaesthetic. Clients didn&amp;rsquo;t have a huge amount of money so we weren&amp;rsquo;t able to do pre op bloods etc. Anaesthetic was delightfully smooth! However he did have a shark fin waveform. I couldn&amp;rsquo;t hear any rattling or anything. I wasn&amp;rsquo;t monitoring the anaesthetic and was called away so didnt see him extubated and didn&amp;rsquo;t think to check it afterwards. Could the waveform in this instance be asthma? Or something to do with the patient&amp;rsquo;s age?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Capnogram/CO2 Waveform Interpretation</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/174832?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:33:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:442aa0d4-5edb-4c15-a852-4f96e25db085</guid><dc:creator>James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi!&amp;nbsp; You might find these helpful -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.smiths-medical.com/company-information/training-and-education/capnography"&gt;https://www.smiths-medical.com/company-information/training-and-education/capnography&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.capnography.com/"&gt;https://www.capnography.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yes, slanted wave forms can indicate resistance like tube goobies - ideally you should see a nice &amp;#39;square&amp;#39; ish trace.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes a trace of little triangular waves indicates gas flowing around the ETT and the need for a bit more inflation of the cuff.&amp;nbsp; The second website has massive banks of waveform examples to check out :)&lt;/p&gt;
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