Pain relief!

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Maisy — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:21:36 GMT

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Why don't you take it up with your local CP branch? They order through Henry Schein and get a discount - they may allow you to order some 3ml bottles on their behalf to send your cat spays home with.

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Definitely. The C4 neuter scheme was a fixed amount for spays/castrates, but the charity would still pay a reduced fee for cats going home with a buster collar or 3ml metacam.

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Courtney Scales — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 10:49:25 GMT

Yep! It was in a Webinar last year by the ISFM ♥

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James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN — Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:02:04 GMT

Why don't you take it up with your local CP branch? They order through Henry Schein and get a discount - they may allow you to order some 3ml bottles on their behalf to send your cat spays home with.

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ellynoonoo — Thu, 09 Mar 2017 14:43:27 GMT

I know I wouldn't want bits chopped off me without post op pain relief (gulps and crosses legs)!

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jojofruits — Thu, 09 Mar 2017 14:11:04 GMT

We were talking about this at work the other day and I believe the most recent studies are showing that the majority of neuters including cat castrations have pain for 2-3 days post op :)

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ellynoonoo — Thu, 09 Mar 2017 13:12:23 GMT

Hi all our cpl patients are treated the same as full paying ones and the cost of all our neutering,including cat castrations include post op pain relief, a buster collar and food. I think all animals should be going home with pain relief and this has been the norm for our practice for a number of years. This said we are owned by a large corporate company and I assume we get a lot of discount on products.

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ellynoonoo — Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:56:12 GMT

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 20:17:50 GMT

the fiver neutering I think? is just this month and last. We have done 4 today.[quote user="nikki84"]

To be honest, we don't give them a lot of choice when it comes to NSAID's post op.

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fair does if they actually need it but animals are individuals just as we are and if we automatically dish out NSAIDs even if they don't need them aren't we falling into the same bad habit that practices had with antibiotics not so many years ago?

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nikki84 — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:17:43 GMT

We see a fair few neutering vouchers come through from CPL, but never neutering for a fiver!

With all of our cat neutering, voucher or not, the clients all receive a full estimate of costs for everything (procedure, post op pain relief and buster collar). Even if they have already stated the CPL voucher will cover some costs, we always make sure they are aware that THEY are responsible for additional fees (NSAID's and b-collar) at the time of admit.

As a practice we don't send males home with further NSAID's but we do give a 3ml bottle of Metacam to the females. Obviously if the client requests additional pain relief for the males we will provide it.

To be honest, we don't give them a lot of choice when it comes to NSAID's post op. It's included in the estimate and we provide it at a cost to the client if they present a CPL voucher.
We have never had a client complain about the charge as nobody really want's their pet in pain, although we do have a fair few refuse a buster collar.
We just ensure they are always made aware of additional charges when they call the clinic, at the time of the admit and during the discharge. I think people would generally be more accommodating if they are made aware.

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Alison Clare Hickman — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 09:05:42 GMT

Hi,

There's a similar thread over on vetsurgeon and opinions range from none needed (to go home with) to definitely needed; together with variations on who should foot the bill.

As I said before... 'it depends' !!!

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 00:46:25 GMT

as the cost of the neutering is already being heavily subsidised just what else do you think should be included for a fiver? - don't get me wrong I am not saying that cats don't deserve pain relief just that the practice shouldn't have to stump up for it. Somewhere along the line the owner has to take some responsibility for their pet and its needs, but in saying that if you have a good surgeon with a small incision that goes straight in with no fishing around that one shot of an NSAID may be all that is needed.

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Courtney Scales — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 20:35:55 GMT

Sadly there are a lot of pets that go home with just the one NSAID injection on board. However, I think they should go home one much more - but in this instance of a very cheap (almost free) neutering scheme, the client should have the cost passed on to them.

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Alison Clare Hickman — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 16:17:34 GMT

Hi Kirsty,

I've worked in all kinds of practices and it seems to me that there's no hard and fast rule. Therefore my answer is... it depends what the charity will cover the cost of, how it is promoted to the client (ie at first contact they are told PO pain relief is included or not included), and/or what the practice protocol is.

Naturally my preference would be for every patient to go home with PO analgesia but some clients cannot or will not pay for it. I quote one rather forthright client collecting his cat, after a spay, when I queried if he would like to take some for her comfort.. "Nah, she'll just 'ave t'suck it up"... My face was apparently a bit of a picture...

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