Rabbit protocol

RE: Rabbit protocol

Rhian Jones — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 23:14:11 GMT

Thank you!

RE: Rabbit protocol

Jessica Bell — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:23:36 GMT

http://docserver.ingentaconnect.com/deliver/connect/aalas/15320820/v56n1/s9.pdf?expires=1459461117&id=86542486&titleid=72010023&accname=Guest+User&checksum=079F00E469465AEF6EC07F551EE34F96

This should be the link for the paper

RE: Rabbit protocol

C123 — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 20:19:32 GMT

Hi we use domitor and ketamine for ours. we also give ketofen Engemycin metoclopramide. Then provide oxygen during surgery - sometimes they need a bit of iso but normally this is sufficien. We then antisedan on finishing and give warmed ip fluids. They are placed in an incubato. They recover quickly and are eating soon after.

RE: Rabbit protocol

Cloudy Weather — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:02:33 GMT

Thanks Jessica! Will look into this :)

RE: Rabbit protocol

SVN Kent — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:50:08 GMT

Hi our protocol is slightly different to all the above but has a great recovery,rabbits eating well soon after,reduced risk of hypothermia due to no prolonged recumbency,no spinning around the kennel on a ketamine fix!

S/C metoclop ,meloxicam

TIVA:lateral ear vein,24g, premed medetomidine to effect,induction propofol to effect. Top up propofol as required,maintained O2 mask.

Once procedure complete,antiseden slow IV to effect,5-10ml saline IV

works a dream!

RE: Rabbit protocol

Rhian Jones — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:31:00 GMT

Hi,

Just wondering if you still have the paper or could direct me on where to find it as increasing the metacam might make our bunny recoveries a little smoother!

Thanks xx

RE: Rabbit protocol

Jessica Bell — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:36 GMT

I find that the recovery is much better with metaclopramide pre op and cisapride post op as the drugs stimulate different parts of the intestine so our buns tend to wake up and eat before home, which is always reassuring.

Metacam wise, for our surgeries and dentals we use a dose of 1.5mg/kg which is quite a bit higher than the 0.5mg/kg we used previously, There was a study done in 2006 and after reading it last year I implemented a trial and we've never looked back. This dose is only safe for 5 days or less but for spays and castrates it works a treat. We've not had to provide additional opiod analgesia since we started using the higher dose.

Hope this helps x

RE: Rabbit protocol

Cloudy Weather — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:42:54 GMT

Thanks for all these. We tend to use medetomidine, butorphanol, and ketamine along with metoclopramide and metacam, with metacam continuing post op. Similar to you Jessica, do you find your patients are comfortable on this without the need for additional buprenorphine postoperatively? Understand the disadvanatge of opioids in terms of gut motility but just curious how people find rabbits cope postoperatively.

RE: Rabbit protocol

Jessica Bell — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:07:42 GMT

Hi!

We give sedastart alvegesic and narketan (dom/Butorphanol/ket) IM alongside Metacam and Metoclopramide as premed. Once asleep we place the vgel and attach this to our cap no graph on our multi monitor. While it doesn't provide accurate information as we only have cat, dog and horse settings on ours, it does show a wave formation when attached which helps to monitor that the v gel is in place. We maintain on sevoflo and prior to surgery while the vet gets prepped we give peri op fluids split between sc and iv. Thermal support is obviously in place throughout and sedastop given. Our buns go home with Metacam and Cisipride for 4 days too.

Hope this helps x

RE: Rabbit protocol

James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:29:15 GMT

We use a protocol slightly similar to above - Metoclop and Buprenorphine given 20 minutes before Domitor/Ketamine and Metacam, and IVFT as standard (rate of 3ml/kg/hr as rabbit maintenance)

We wouldn't routinely add in Baytril unless there was an indication to do so, and would never use the 5% baytril in bunnies.

I *think* some of the bunny experts now recomment that rabbits for GA are also given Zantac on admit as well.

Would love to try the vgel supraglottic jobbies but they are very expensive, we dont have enough rabbit procedures to justify it - and others have told me that they have a habit of becoming displaced on the journey from prep to theatre.

RE: Rabbit protocol

Yvette Boffey — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:26:02 GMT

Hi :)

We give me metacam baytril and emeprid subcut on admit. Then we use domitor vetergesic and ketamine all IM . Obviously we then pre oxygenate them and use antisedan for reversal when finished. We will use isoflo if needed and keep them warmed up with bubble wrap and blankets etc. We send them all home with metacam and emeprid for 5 days post op too.

Hope this helps :)