cerenia with lidocaine

RE: cerenia with lidocaine

Louise Northway VNCertECC NCert(Anaesth) RVN — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:43:19 GMT

We store cerenia in the fridge as it seems to make it sting less!

Also one of my nurses said administering it slowly s/c makes it sting less (so do it super slowly!) this seems to make a big difference also

RE: cerenia with lidocaine

maylane — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:53:58 GMT

Never given it with lidocaine, don't think it stings that much that an injection of lidocaine is warranted.

We keep it in the fridge which i think helps, my last practice didn't and on balance i guess i witnessed more stinging reactions with the room temp stuff.

Its routinely used iv in the states.

Better still Cerenia is proven to provide some visceral analgesia and have an anaesthetic sparing effect for both dogs and cats undergoing ovariohysterectomy. We are starting to use it as part of the pre med for abdo surgeries for this reason.

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Ailsa Main — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:36:34 GMT

I think it actually says on the Cerenia data sheet now that keeping it in the fridge might reduce the sting.

Other than that- Tablets?!

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Ems — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:16:47 GMT

I agree with Celine on this, sounds a bit faffy! I don't like mixing anything in syringes, but as a few people have said, I also noticed a big difference with storing Cerenia in the fridge

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Jennifer — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:31:38 GMT

keeping it in the fridge reduces the sting massively. we keep our bottles in the fridge routinely now

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Selena Carnell — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:03:46 GMT

having had local it stings like bitch! so i could inject that too, anyway it needs time to work so really cannot see the benefit... we store certain in the fridge - vets said they get less reaction that way.

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:00:34 GMT

rubbing the area well is all we do. Would agree that some animals appear more sensitive than others but I suppose its the same with synulox - some don't bother and some seem to really feel it.

Have heard the theory that lidocaine being acidic helps to stop the sting in cerenia because it makes it less alkaline but have no idea if this is the case or not? but if that was the case wouldn't the lidocaine affect how the cerenia works?

(having just looked it up it looks like maropitant and possibly meta cresol the preservative are both on the acidic side so that theory doesn't work either)

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Steph Worsley — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:43:52 GMT

nope never done this and from personal experience lidocaine stings like a bitch itself.

we keep ours in the fridge and it seemed to reduce the sting in most patients. although i find that rubbing the area as I am injecting seems to work just as well.

like has been said I think some animals are more sensitive than others.

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Celine — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:37:38 GMT

Forgive me for being dense but I'm pretty sure local takes a minute or two to work - how on earth would it help to inject it at the same time? Or are you injecting local, waiting two minutes and then injecting the cerenia in exactly the same spot?

sort of sounds like one of those things people do that's based on urban myth and not sound scientific evidence my first boss always used to give Rimadyl and Clav LA in the same syringe to save (him, not the animal) another needle... Sigh

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elaine elder — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:36:59 GMT

We used to keep it in the fridge and it helped. Although I think certain patients are just more sensitive than others. I think it's licensed IV in other countries. We had a referal from a vet school saying to give it iv before chemo. But wasn't brave enough to do it!

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Nicola Smith — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:15:15 GMT

Have known people keep it in the fridge to reduce the sting but not sure off the top of my head what the minimum storage temp should be.

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 09:43:24 GMT

Yes I have heard of it being done but

'In the absence of compatibility studies, Cerenia Solution for Injection must not be mixed with other veterinary medicinal products in the same syringe.'

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/Pfizer_Limited/Cerenia_10_mg_ml_Solution_for_Injection_for_dogs_and_cats/-43634.html