Misalliance

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Fiona Leathers — Mon, 11 May 2009 10:45:26 GMT

Alizin is 24hours apart and it you go over the 24hours by 6 hours then you need to do it again. At least thats what we've been told by their helpline.

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jan — Thu, 07 May 2009 21:52:46 GMT

Alizan can be given up to day 40, 2 inj 2 days apart. Mesalin starts at 72 hours after mating. If the bitch is 4 weeks (or 4 weeks +) then we spay & abort.

We have a major unwanted dog problem here. So we will abort untill pretty late on. We alway inj the foetus with euthatal at any stage

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Laura x — Thu, 07 May 2009 21:40:25 GMT

We use Alizin also, 2 injections 24 hours apart. It can be used upto day 45 of pregnancy but foetus' can be passed late on. You can also inject no more than 5ml at one site so large dogs needs a couple of injections..

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Saskia Quinn — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:58:21 GMT

Heather,

if you are never going to breed from her, you can still have her neutered. I am not sure at what stage as I think it depends on the individual vets preference I think.

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Mac Feather — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:54:56 GMT

Well the silly man didnt keep them separate and they tied again on sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suppose I should let him off coz hes knackered with the lambing etc. But sometimes I despair!

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Saskia Quinn — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:22:37 GMT

I would agree with you Albatross, for the sake of the dog, to go ahead with the pregnancy, but then we pose the question, what happens to the pups? It only adds to the population of stray and unwanted dogs. However, I had seen more times than I care to remember, pet owners or indeed farmers bring a litter of pups, barely hours old, into the surgery for pts. I have also heard of terrible, sad horror stories of bitches searching for their pups for days as a result of what the owner had done. In these cases, I really feel for the psychological state of the bitch. Im my opinion, that is a very cruel thing for the owner to do. So, often I have managed to persuade these owners to keep at least one pup. More often than not, they have kept 2 and euthanased the others. For the ones who were not keen, I promised them that if they could not get homes for the pups, I would quite happily find a home for them. So far, I have not had to.

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albatross — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:03:52 GMT

our clinic uses alizin. The vets say though to the client that often it's better to go ahead with the pregnancy, or if early term then to neuter if they don't intend to breed from the animal.

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Saskia Quinn — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:06:57 GMT

I wouldnt like to give Alizin too late though, can you imagine giving it at 40 days? OMG the gestation period of a dog is 63 days. It would almost be like labour for the dog then.

Mesalin is the other one which can be given on day 3, 5 and 7.

Alizin needs to be given 24 hours apart. 2 injections

There are no guarantees with either drug though, have known it to be given to dogs (mesalin) and they went on to have one or two pups.

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Cat Woman — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:03:51 GMT

Alizin can be used late in pregnancy, as it causes abortion. I have also seen it used in cats with pyometra.

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Katy — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:43:20 GMT

We use Alizin. There is also another one, but you need to get to the vets pretty sharpish!

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bongo — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:41:02 GMT

wow that long, I'm quite surprised at that.

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Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:38:45 GMT

I was right, you can give this up to 45 days after mating

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Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:37:22 GMT

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yes I think there are a couple of things available now in case of a misalliance, can't remember off the top of my head what they are called, I think one is made by virbac cos we had a talk on it a while ago. suppose it is like the morning after pill for dogs!

naughty pooch!

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Alizin is what it is called, I am pretty sure that the length of time between mating and injecting this can be quite some time......... off to look

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bongo — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:31:31 GMT

naughty pooch!

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Emily Hibbs — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:29:00 GMT

Yes but an injection!

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Fleabee99 — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:13:53 GMT

is that like the morning after pill or something?

just curious didnt know that was possible

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Mac Feather — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:14:22 GMT

Thanks for that, wasnt sure.

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Emily Hibbs — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:51:26 GMT

Hiya, just had a look on noah compendium online and it should be given on day 3 and day 5, counting day 0 as the day of mating.

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Cat Woman — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:49:16 GMT

Think its 3, 5 & poss another at 7 or 9? Dependant on if you are sure of the timing of matings.