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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Premed for my dog- any ideas?</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/clinical-discussions/21434/premed-for-my-dog--any-ideas</link><description> I have a 30kg lurcher cross who may need spinal surgery in the next few months/year. 
 The problem is he never has a nice recovery after any combo of premeds. He has been on Pardale-v, but he gets so stoned he can hardly walk. He slept for 6 hours after</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Premed for my dog- any ideas?</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142394?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 19:41:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:b5e8d13a-e75a-4212-acc9-86483c7647bd</guid><dc:creator>Elisabeth Knappett</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Would second the suggestion of speaking to a specialist anaesthesiologist - they always have some unheard of combinations kicking around! Ketamine can be very useful but I would think a level of opioid would be necessary for pain relief post op? Have you tried gabapentin if the pain is truly neurological? It has worked very well in a couple of cases I&amp;#39;ve dealt with and didn&amp;#39;t seem to have as many of the spaced out side effects.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Premed for my dog- any ideas?</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142362?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 14:04:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:7ce1ea5c-64ca-465e-835a-882802879115</guid><dc:creator>Steph Worsley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Where will the spinal surgery be being carried out? could your vet speak to a specialist anaesthetist to get some advice, I&amp;#39;m pretty sure any of the guys at work wouldn&amp;#39;t mind helping out with some suggestions, we perform various spinal surgeries on a very regular basis (ie almost daily at times) The protocol is generally based on the patient and their history, and the actual surgery being performed&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We will usually give methadone as a pain relief initially but the dose can be reduced if too much sedation is reached, we also will not hesitate to use acp as a mild sedation on recovery to stop thrashing around or butorphanol or a combo of the 2.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sorry I know you are worried about him, but to point out the obvious ultimately it&amp;#39;s a vets&amp;nbsp;decision what pre med to use.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Premed for my dog- any ideas?</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142358?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 12:16:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:fe290857-14eb-465a-9cdc-bd6ca4ed9b10</guid><dc:creator>funkyfish</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Humm will look into it. I know a that he will need an opiate for pain relief but just need to find one that does not sedate so much.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure he is not MDR-1 gene defective (grandmother was a collie x greyhound), but can&amp;#39;t afford the test. He reacts badly to all the drugs on the list so assume so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is currently on Atopica (thank god for Pet plan!) as an anti&amp;nbsp;inflammatory, which is working great, he still has an&amp;nbsp;intermitted&amp;nbsp;crap gait tho, so still nerve pain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Premed for my dog- any ideas?</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142357?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 11:52:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:13e4ce5e-701b-4233-8a09-3f34d4c62f14</guid><dc:creator>Catherine Raymond</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;sorry - just saw that an opioid is a no no. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Premed for my dog- any ideas?</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/142356?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 11:49:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:1f033dea-812b-4c0e-989e-dc4204d59630</guid><dc:creator>Catherine Raymond</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Our ortho dogs get a premed of dorbene and comfortan and then an infusion of comfortan/lidocaine and ketaset. &amp;nbsp;Patient is then topped up with comfortan later in the day if needed. &amp;nbsp;Seems to work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>