haemacell

Re: haemacell

Katie Mansfield — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:23:24 GMT

they did where I was on my last placement and never had a problem - although I'm going on the fact that the colloid was infused - obv never checked the molecules.

K x

Re: haemacell

StephSVN — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:45:03 GMT

Not really related, but I recently heard that colloids shouldn't be given via infusion pump as it breaks up the molecules. Never heard this before, always used a pump to ensure correct rate given, and never had any problems/ always got expected result, but the logic does make sense.

Just wondering if other people do/do not use infusion pumps?

Re: haemacell

Katie Mansfield — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:34:21 GMT

We ran out of Voluven last weekend and one of our nurses did a ring round local surgeries to see if we could borrow/steal/buy some off any of them. She was very shocked to discover many of them had never heard of either Voluven or Haemacell.

K x

Re: haemacell

Claire Bloor — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:53:32 GMT

We use Voluven...larger molecules, remain in circulation for longer thus exert their volume-expansion effects for longer.

In emergency situations if you have a large breed hypovolaemic dog your vet may consider an initial bolus of hypertonic saline...?

Re: haemacell

emvn80 — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:53:30 GMT

Gelofusine is the only other gelatin based colloid but you should be able to still get hold of it and it is pretty much identical to haemocell.

As previous poster said, starch based colloids such as Voluven may be an alternative but be aware that starch based colloids are not licensed for use in animals unlike the gelatin based colloids.

To be honest it depends why you want to use it as to whether a starch or a gelatin is preferred. Starches in general (There is lots of different types) hang around in the circulation for longer (nearer to 24 hours compared to gelatins only 4-6 hours) but may have more negative side effects....If a dog was bleeding out then I would use the first one I grabbed and wouldn't worry which one it was, but if say you had a critically ill septic patient with hypotension and 'leaky' blood vessels and you needed long term circulatory support then you might prefer a starch.

I'm not sure on the price difference but the vet should follow the cascade system when selecting a colloid same as any other drug...

Re: haemacell

staceyvn — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:40:16 GMT

have u tried to source hetastarch? its much more effective than either haem/gelofusin - the protein molecules are heavier than in either of the former, dont order anymore so not sure if can get any of them but worth a try??

Re: haemacell

martha — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:56:33 GMT

I thought I had heard that haemacell has been discontinued unfortunatley

Re: haemacell

Laura - Jayne Banner — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:07:48 GMT

We use Gelofusin vet 500ml, you can get it from centaur for £19.47 + vat (Cheaper than Haemacell)