ACP

Re: ACP

Elaine Nolan — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:37:36 GMT

well by the looks of things when they were doing the licences for calmivet they neglected to add the republic of ireland to it shockingly enough, looks like our protocols are gonna have to change. our rep said they are looking at releasing their new ACP in july 2012 but she followed that up with a sly dont hold your breath though, id imagine it will be july 3012 by the time we see it anyway

Re: ACP

julie cozze — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:11:24 GMT

we haven't had any problems using calmivet in small doses as long as you have good 1ml syringes with the tiny graduations.Terumo and plastipak are both good. You shouldn't need to dilute

Re: ACP

Anonymous — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:19:04 GMT

we just made our own chart to say if you used this much acp you use this much calmivet and it seems to work for our vets, we have the normal weight/dose chart for calmivet to.

Re: ACP

emvn80 — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:39:41 GMT

Vicky RVN, I completely agree, & actually don't think it is necessary, especially if you use the small 0.3mL insulin syringes...

Re: ACP

Vicky RVN — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:57:45 GMT

I really don't like the idea of diulting Calmivet with water for injection...it has no preservative does it? Diluting and using straight away, fine, but doing it to keep, i'm just not sure I like that idea...

Re: ACP

Elaine Nolan — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:46:51 GMT

i put it to the boss about the calmivet and she has used it before just isnt overly fond of it as its dangerous and were so used to using hardly any ACP for our patients but the watering it down may work well. will deffo try get it out of the rep when theirs is coming back if she can tell us and let you all know...though me being on the wrong side of the water will probably mean ye will have it back and we wont get it again :(

Re: ACP

VLE — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:34:09 GMT

We dilute Calmivet with water for injection to make the 2mg/ml solution and place this into the old ACP bottle.

Re: ACP

Gemma Burden RVN — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:05:10 GMT

Our Novartis rep told us a while ago that hopefuly their ACP should be back again in the early part of the new year. Obviously it isn't available yet, but I hope it's not too much longer, we still have a bit of ACP left that we are using for the cats and I am dreading having to start using Calmivet for the cats.

Re: ACP

Paulette — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:49:24 GMT

Hello :)

As everyone here has suggested Calmivet 5mg/ml is what most practices are using. I locum and have found many practices add the required quantity of Calmivet to a 100ml Water for Injection vial so that the strength is 2mg/ml (same as ACP was) to eliminate the issues with drawing up accurate doses however I am not sure if this is legal/off licence etc so am not at all recommending it but will leave it to you to research. As suggested the insulin syringes are great for drawing up tiny quantities but personally when we tried this last week found them difficult to give intramuscularly as they bend and get blunt easily (and you can't change the needle).

Re: ACP

Elaine Nolan — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:49:27 GMT

thanks for that, we luckily have our novartis rep in tomorrow to talk about wormers so i think we will pick her brains about it

Re: ACP

emvn80 — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:38:57 GMT

Yep the brand 'ACP' was discontinued but as previous poster said you can get 'Calmivet' which is still acepromazine but it is 5mg/mL rather than 2mg/mL so much smaller volumes are used. The smaller volumes means for cats etc, that the 0.3 mL insulin syringes are useful for drawing up the tiny volumes- often 0.05mL or less. It comes from France so you need one of those special prescription/ import license thing. Micro doses of medetomidine, or midazolam or just opioids alone are other options too, depending on health status of paint and reason for anaesthesia....

Re: ACP

Catherine Raymond — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:32:32 GMT

We have Calmivet which is ACP but is 5mg/ml.