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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Flow rates with lack or bain</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/clinical-discussions/15440/flow-rates-with-lack-or-bain</link><description>When you are using the lack or bains circuit do you work out your flow rate using the calculations taught when training e.g weight x resps x Tidal volume x circuit factor or do you use another faster method. 
I have heard of using 200ml per kg for Bain</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Flow rates with lack or bain</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/121752?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:23:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:9d457a48-8b2b-4051-a06e-1230306130c0</guid><dc:creator>emvn80</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;you should always calculate them for every patient, the calculation is based on the patients minute volume multiplied by the circuit factor (MV X CF).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The minute volume (MV) = TV X RR.&amp;nbsp; I normally use 10mL/kg for tidal volume. (Makes maths easy ;) )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The circuit factor for a Bain is approx 2.5, the circuit factor for a lack is 0.8-1.0.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The reason you shouldn&amp;#39;t use general &amp;#39;formulas&amp;#39; is that this calculation shows that the fresh gas flow is dependant on the patients resp rate, therefore if the resp rate increases the fresh gas flow requirement will increase.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You should use the resp rate prior to anaesthesia to calccultae it prior to induction (I do it in my head quickly when I&amp;#39;m checking my equipment) then you can use the actual resp rate when the patient is anaesthetised to calculate a more accurate flow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you have a capnograph this can tell you if your fresh gas flow is adequate- on a non-rebreathing circuit like these you will see rebreathing of CO2 (ie inspired CO2) if the fresh gas flow is inadequate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope that helps,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>