Ear Thermometer

Re: Ear Thermometer

Angel — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:38:34 GMT

Well, I have to put the kyboch on it I am afraid, I like digi thermoms, but not without a "thermomadom"!!

I have actually had a digi thermom break, fortunately enough it was outside the patient, the metal end came off revealing a springything inside. God forbid that it broke inside the patient!!! This is the reason I like to use the thermomadom.......its a sheath that covers the thermometer, not only protecting it from the likes of poo, but also to limit the amount of bacterial contact etc..... plus point being that you chuck the "dom" away once finished with - leaving you with a sparklingly clean thermometer!!

I dislike the way that some staff use the thermometers and don't clean them after use!!

I don't like the idea of thermometers just being wiped over with a bit of hibiscrub.

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:14:33 GMT

Sorry??? Who said that????

Re: Ear Thermometer

Jax — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:13:47 GMT

Haha!!! X

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:07:28 GMT

ok dokes you are now being ignored!!!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Jax — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:43:02 GMT

That wouldnt be the one we got cause we got some money from a client and that was only about £20.00.. And i know the practice would not put anymore towards it!!!! Haha, so just ignore my input... cause god knows what im talking about!!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:31:33 GMT

Don't know where you got your £11 price from but I want to buy it from them!!! Here's the link to vet direct & its neary £70

http://www.vet-direct.co.uk/vet-temp-150---save-10-1935-p.asp

Re: Ear Thermometer

Kerry Spain — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:45:03 GMT

The Vet Temp takes 1 second to read! Stick it in and press the button and you have your temp straight away!!

Re: Ear Thermometer

JaneRVN — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:51:05 GMT

I agree with Kate, I much prefer the digital ones. Yhe vet i currently use for my cats is really good, but insists on using glass therms up the bum if a wriggly Persian! I take it as a compliment that he knows I can hold her!

I have seen the ear ones used once, about 8 years ago. I don't know how accurate they were but the vet used them as he couldn't see the reading no digital or mercury, and he also never listened to animals hearts as he couldn't hear! Not a great advetr for them!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Jax — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:23:52 GMT

You saying that i just looked them up but they dont say anywhere on the page that they are for ear use.... but in the instructions they had a diagram of how the probe should be inserted into the ear!! Im very confused now!! hehe!!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:42:36 GMT

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We got the AccuVET professional veterinary thermometer fromVetdirect. But it was the cheapest one we could find at about £11 so this maybe why...

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Was that really the price for an ear thermometer? The ones I've been looking at are up in the £80-100 region

Re: Ear Thermometer

Jax — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:46:56 GMT

To add to the above, they were supposed to give a reading within 10 secs.. but was much longer due to the difficulty of keeping patients head still!! I find the digital rectal ones better... but all VNS will have different opinions X

Re: Ear Thermometer

Jax — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:45:22 GMT

Hi Bouncyfi, We always use the standard rectal thermometers.. a little while ago we asked if we could get some ear ones as we thought they would be less invasive. We got the AccuVET professional veterinary thermometer fromVetdirect. We did not rate this as it was very difficult to use as patients got fed up of waiting whilst there was this probe in their ear.... But it was the cheapest one we could find at about £11 so this maybe why... more expensive ones / better ones may work really well and i like the idea about using them for monitoring temp throughout ops as not always poss to get to the back end.. but we had to send ours back!!

Hope this helps x

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:11:50 GMT

Thanks Kerry!!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Kerry Spain — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:02:49 GMT

Vet-Temp VT-150 Instant animal ear thermometer

available from Vet Direct along with the disposable ear covers and dispenser

£79 +VAT

£32.95 for 500 covers +VAT

Re: Ear Thermometer

Kerry Spain — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:59:36 GMT

ok I'll just look back in a mo...

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:32:27 GMT

Kerry - if you could get a name or make for me that would be great! I would really appreciate it!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Kerry Spain — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:03:28 GMT

We have digi and the ear thermometers, we used them side by side for a few weeks to make sure that the ear ones where accurate. They where.

Can't remember the name of the ear thermometer but they are made specifically for animals as we got them from congress last year.

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:42:08 GMT

Its ACP we use in our pre-med and we've noticed that the patients are certainly dropping temperatures by at least 2°C by the time they get to surgery usually 30-40 minutes later!

Always knew it happened - its a phrase that trips off your tongue to students & clients "anaesthetic drops their body temperature" - but didn't realise quite how much until now!

Re: Ear Thermometer

sisterscope1 — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:38:59 GMT

In human studies pre warming is more effective at preventing hypothermia in the surgical setting compared to active warming post induction. most temp loss occurs within 30min 1hr of induction. If you have access to heat lamps or an incubator then simply put them in/under at the time of pre-med. Anecdotally ACP has a massive effect on temperature, presumably due to its vasodilatative effect. eg Chihuahua temp WNL at time of pre-med, on induction 35.6degC 45 mins later!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Fiona Leathers — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:28:45 GMT

At the moment I would quite like to swing towards the warmer side of life!! It has really brought to my attention, just how cold the patients get when they've been pre-med'd. We haven't even started studying the smaller patients like rabbits and already I'm worried.

I like the idea of pre-warming them - I always give blankets for them to hide under, maybe I'll start with heat pads in the kennels from first thing!

Re: Ear Thermometer

Saskia Quinn — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:26:12 GMT

exactly!!

Re: Ear Thermometer

sisterscope1 — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:21:34 GMT

That will certainly help. Clinically I think 0.1deg here or there is of little consequence, if they're cold warm them up! Consistency and regular monitoring is most important. It's quite easy to swing the other way with overzealous warming.

Re: Ear Thermometer

Saskia Quinn — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:11:27 GMT

thats an interesting point, Sisterscope, however, we were taught to take rectal temperature towards the body wall hence avoiding any faeces which may be there??

Re: Ear Thermometer

sisterscope1 — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:09:01 GMT

Measuring oesophageal temperature is potentially a more accurate way of establishing core body temperature. Ours connects directly to the main monitors though I'm sure you could get stand alone units. The end of the probe is measured to the level of scapular, assuming it's level with the heart and therefore central circulation - and inserted per os. For purposes of study I think if your methods are consistent and described then the information gathered is useful, it's also commendable to recognise potential sources of inaccuracy in your own work. Rectal temp monitoring is problematic due to faeces and also the varying effect of anaesthetic agent in terms of vasodilation/constriction and therefore on circulation/tissue temp.

Re: Ear Thermometer

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:56:11 GMT

this is where we got our monitoring equipment from here's a link:

http://www.southwestmedical.co.uk/