Beagle pain

Re: Beagle pain

Elisha — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:20:40 GMT

We had a beagle just diagnosed with this-had never heard of it before. Our beagle had pyrexia, inapp, painful abdo , CSF revealed meningitis.

Glad to hear ur little one is doing well

I'm now recommending insurance to all our Beagle Owners!!

Re: Beagle pain

Saskia Quinn — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:29:39 GMT

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I got my beagle back . Thanks everyone for your replies.

She really thirsty, and peeing enough to fill lake windemere. But I don't care, shes much more comfortable tonight. Will post to keep you informed how things went over the weekend.

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delighted for you!! Well done! Hope she continues to do well!

Re: Beagle pain

dinkyd — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:53:07 GMT

aw great news glad uv got your girl back!

Re: Beagle pain

Frith — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:55:26 GMT

I got my beagle back . Thanks everyone for your replies.

She really thirsty, and peeing enough to fill lake windemere. But I don't care, shes much more comfortable tonight. Will post to keep you informed how things went over the weekend.

Re: Beagle pain

loobylou — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:33 GMT

Hiya! Hope she had a comfortable night and is feeling a bit better this afternoon. I dont think this beagle was from the same breeder, will have a look into it but pretty sure they travelled for him.

Re: Beagle pain

Steph Worsley — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:41:08 GMT

Hi Frith

Beagle pain tends to be a steroid responsive meningitis-arteritis and yours seems like a definate one. we deal with quite a few of these where i am,

pyrexia is a common symptom but not always present.

speak to your vet about the steroids, if he's unsure he can ring one of the unis to get some advice, i'm at liverpool and we are always happy to return advice phone calls

Re: Beagle pain

Frith — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:37:01 GMT

thanks for all the replies, have been reading about BPS all day. And I have to say until today, I hadn't heard of it.

Will definately be speaking to the vet tomorrow, about using steroids, it certainly can't make things any worse, as we were actually considering PTS today she was so bad.

Will give Kerry a hug from you thanks looby, say hi to colin for me. Just out of interest you don't know if the other beagle came from the same breeder?

Will be giving her another valium soon before bed, so if nothing else she should get a good night sleep.

Re: Beagle pain

loobylou — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:18:22 GMT

I just googled 'beagle pain syndrome' and there is quite a lot of info on there.

Re: Beagle pain

Saskia Quinn — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:59:55 GMT

Totally unrelated to dogs of course but I have to share as I am sure there is at least a slight resemblance -

5 years ago I had Meningitis - woke up one morning and couldnt even get out of bed, I was so sore I actually screamed out in pain when I tried to move. Phillip was only a baby at the time and I couldnt even lift him. I never felt anything like the pain I suffered then. I suffered this for 2 days then started vomiting with pyrexia, couldnt even turn my head never mind bend my neck - mum got the doctor out and an immediate referral to hospital. I had a spinal tap also and it was confirmed it was meningitis. Go easy on that wee Beagle, if it is anything like my pain, it will be horrific

Re: Beagle pain

loobylou — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:50:54 GMT

Ah no, poor Kerry! Give her a big hug!

Colin was talking about this the other week, I never even knew it was a recognised condition. We had a young beagle in (6 months) on numerous occasions with pyrexia, lethargy, inappentance and on some occasions severe neck/ spinal pain. We actually arranaged a referral for mri scan and spinal taps to test for meningitis but the dog was too painful to transport. In the end the owners decided on a trial of prednisolone and it has worked wonders! The pup is a completely differed dog now but will probabaly have to stay on the meds long term. Interestingly we have also seen almost identical symptoms in a young boxer who is awaiting referral.

Hope she feels better soon!

Re: Beagle pain

Doolally — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:08:42 GMT

hiya, i've got a leaflet here dropped in by a beagle owner about beagle pain syndrome/stiff beagle disease/meningo-arteritis/steroid responsive meningitis

The cause is unknown, it is known to be an immune response. the immune response results in an intense inflammation of the blood vessels supplying the meninges and cervical spinal cord

Symptoms: stiff gait, reluctance to eat and drink, lethary and pyrexia (although i know you say yours hasn't got this)

Diagnosis: based on symptoms and spinal tap

Treatment: prednisolone at an immuno-suppressive dose. A new treatment is cytarabine and results in a quicker response and less relapses than steroid treatment.

Blood samples from affected dogs are being collected and stored at the AHT so future testing can be done once funding is secured

Does sound like it could be this as others have suggested? steroids would be a cheap trial to see if she does improve on them....hope you get her sorted soon

Re: Beagle pain

Frith — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:01:47 GMT

Thanks for the replies, will definately discuss this with the vet. She's a bit more relaxed after the massive dose of diazepam, but still sore and misserable.

Re: Beagle pain

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:57:09 GMT

Hi Frith, the dog we had did not have pyrexia, he was just sore and miserable.

Re: Beagle pain

Frith — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:24:09 GMT

have read about something calledbeagle pain syndrome, which is a type of necrotising meningitis, but she hasn't had a pyrexia, which is one of the main symtoms.

Re: Beagle pain

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:20:34 GMT

Are beagles not succeptible to meningitis? I have seen one similar to your screaming in pain miserable and no definite painful area.

We ended up referring for a spinal tap as nothing was showing on x rays etc, and it was meningitis.The dog ended up on long term abios and steroids, and eventually was back to full strength. it might be worth mentioning to your vet.

Re: Beagle pain

dinkyd — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:16:53 GMT

Hi yea wev had a couple of clients with beagles with this syndrome - cant remember what was used to treat tho- but dont think was zubrin - that wasnt on ourshelves then.Our vets will sometimes ring up the vet schools for advice with cases that are a bit more complex and of course are not insured.They have always been very good at getting back to our vets and giving advise/best course of action/treatment.