Awful situation, any help appreciated...

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Tracy Windler RVN — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:18:34 GMT

About 2 hours south of Liverpool, in Shropshire, so probably not related? Let me know if you think it relevant. I'd be happy to help.

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clarolux — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:11:14 GMT

Just read your post and we have had two similar sounding cases within a couple of weeks of each other just before christmas. Just wondering what part of the UK you are in (assuming up north like us when you mentioned Liverpool).If you could pm me that would be great as sounds very similar in presentation to what we had here.

Thanks

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Katie B — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 01:25:27 GMT

Aww hun I am so sorry to hear about your loss, my dog is my world so can't imagine what your going through. Maybe a post mortem could provide the answer and you may be able to help if a case comes in like this in the future. Again I am so sorry, big hugs

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Tracy Windler RVN — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:11:07 GMT

Hi guys, thanks for the support and suggestions. I'm thinking DIC might be likely with the severity and acute onset of the liver disease. I didn't get to see any of the most recent blood results, or see him in the 24 hrs before he died. Its a long-shot trying to figure out what happened without any reasonable information. I suppose it just helped to write it all down.

Thanks Guys xx

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Nichola231 — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:56:10 GMT

Oh no! That's awful! Wish I had some ideas for you :(

So sorry for your loss! xxx

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Vicky RVN — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:51:11 GMT

So sorry to hear about your loss Tracey to you and your parents xxx

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Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33 — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:41:50 GMT

sorry to hear of your loss

did they re-check the bloods that day?,was he urinating ok? maybe his kidneys gave up. i would consider PM too.

agree with the above poster ?DIC

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Steph Worsley — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:44:29 GMT

Awww hun Huge HUGS!!!!!!

my mind is going along potential lepto route maybe, as that can affect both liver and kidneys and they can deteriorate quite quikly from that.

Cant think of anything else unless he had gone into DIC for some reason.

Hugs again and if anything else springs to mind I shall come back on

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Louise B — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:41:49 GMT

Gutted for you and your parents. What an awful thing to happen. Poor dog :(

I don't really have any medical coments to make other than to say that I had a collie X when I was a child. She was about 8 years too. She seemed perfectly healthy. I fed her fat scraps from a pig roast I went to as a treat and the next day she collapsed. She was dead within about 24 hours. This was thirty years ago and no bloods were done as far as I can remember but the PM showed multiple organ failure - she had been compensating okay but the addition of loads of fat to her diet just precipitated her over the edge. I don't recall my mum or I being aware of her being sick at all before being fed pig fat. So I guess that it is entirely possible that your parent's dog had something grumbling along but that, for whatever reason, it just reached a point at which it couldn't anymore.

So sorry though. What an awful shock for you all.

Louise

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Celine — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 22:23:14 GMT

Tracy thats awful and I really feel for you and your folks.

I have to say (and not sure I could do this with my own pet mind) that, working in a zoo, we perform a PM on every animal that passes away, even those whose cause of death seems entirely straightforward, and it is very very interesting to see the number who have other issues going on, or even the odd case of sudden death with an animal who appeared completely healthy the day before, but turns out to be riddled with problems. Different scenario I know, but I guess we're only ever going to be speculating otherwise (but that's not to say we always get answers on PM either!)

Hopefully one of our internal medic friends can offer some ideas, take care

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Saskia Quinn — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 22:19:57 GMT

Aw Tracy, I am really sorry to hear that, I must admit, I was shocked when I read at the end that he had died

If you have details of the blood results and other tests done, why dont you have a chat with one of your vet colleagues at work? Maybe give you a few ideas as to what may have happened?

Thinking of you xxx

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Tracy Windler RVN — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 22:00:25 GMT

Thanks Phrin, we thought about pm, but didn't think it appropriate.

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Phrin Vernon RVN — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:40:35 GMT

Tracey I have no constructive ideas I'm afraid, but I just couldn't read and run.....

My thoughts are with you and your folks

Would a PM be an option - I realise the idea can be distasteful, and I decided not to when my own BC died fairly suddenly