Circle circuit question

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:07:28 GMT

no worries

Re: Circle circuit question

Phrin Vernon RVN — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:24:00 GMT

Aghhh! I was a sarcastic sod- sorry!

This site is fab for discussion tho!

xxx

Re: Circle circuit question

Phrin Vernon RVN — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:23:46 GMT

Whoops - I was just a bit insensitive then too- sorry1

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Oh is it.Im awfully sorry for my mistake if it is- not exactly difficult to find once on the website and im sure with just a little looking they would find it ....dont think i appreciate your tone very much i was only trying to help.

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Whoa! No need!

SmegSlayer was just trying to direct people to the resorces part of the website IMHO

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Re: Circle circuit question

Phrin Vernon RVN — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:15:55 GMT

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Whoa! No need!

SmegSlayer was just trying to direct people to the resorces part of the website IMHO

Re: Circle circuit question

SmegSlayer — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 22:46:15 GMT

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I meant no offense by my comment. I went to read it and couldn't find it so when I found it thought I would mention it. Quite frankly the website design makes it quite difficult to be accurate with those menus that drop down when you hover over them.

I'm sorry if you were hurt or offended.

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:54:13 GMT

Re: Circle circuit question

SmegSlayer — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:55:52 GMT

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Boogle there is a pretty good website that has animations showing how the circuits work etc you need to go to the resources section and its under clinical anaesthesia.

www.frca.co.uk

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Think you will find that it is under resourses- physics and equipment- breathing circuits

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:35:04 GMT

Your very welcome

Re: Circle circuit question

Teh Fluffeh — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:23:09 GMT

Thanks so much for posting the animations link. I was about to ask if anyone had decent pictures of what each of the circuits look like as we don't use many in my practice, but it looks like there's no need now.

Re: Circle circuit question

Boogle — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:05:02 GMT

Oh awesome, I shall have a look at that. Will certainly help get my head round them.

You guys are so helpful

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:53:06 GMT

Boogle there is a pretty good website that has animations showing how the circuits work etc you need to go to the resources section and its under clinical anaesthesia.

www.frca.co.uk

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:40:11 GMT

Just to add...closed,semi closed and open do not have anything to do with the apl valve- these terms refer to the flow rates used within the circle system.

Re: Circle circuit question

Phrin Vernon RVN — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:01:22 GMT

You're welcome - I was always taught to squeeze the bag too, and occasionally habit still gets the better of me!

It wasn't until going to college that I learnt the correct (and logical when you think about it) way to do it!

Re: Circle circuit question

Boogle — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:42:29 GMT

Thankyou! That makes sense. I was taught to squeeze the bag, but didn't think that was quite right. Makes much more sense to alter the flow rate accordingly.

Thankyou :)

Re: Circle circuit question

Phrin Vernon RVN — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:55:29 GMT

Hi Boogle

The circle should ALWAYS be run as a semi closed system, so the APL valve should be at least half open.

The reason it can take so long to adjust depth, is because of the low flow rates. If you want to initiate a change quickly, just up the O2 level a few litres - at least 1.5 x minute volume if not more. This will mean that the gas is flushed through the system quicker, and the new iso/sevo levels will stabilise within the circuit quicker.

There should be no need to empty the bag, as this will upset the dynamics of the circuit.

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:48:34 GMT

that wont change the anaesthetic depth any quicker though.....to speed up delivery of the gas you need to increase your flow rate in order for it to be carried round the system quicker.I only ever touch the bag if i am disconnecting the circuit-then i will empty the bag of its contents or if i am having to deliver a breath to the patient.Shouldnt be a need to empty the reservior bag when changing depth as the circuit then needs to reload itself.

Re: Circle circuit question

Polly P — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:34:40 GMT

I was taught when upping or downing the iso (or other agent) when you have adjusted it to squeeze the bag to expel the prior dosage, so that the animal gets the revised dosage faster.

Re: Circle circuit question

dinkyd — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:20:14 GMT

The circle should never be run as a closed system - so unsure what you are referring to here?

To increase/decrease anaesthetic depth can be achieved quite quickly - i wouldnt recommend you turn off the vaporiser to adjust anaesthetic depth as its quite likely you will end up having the dog jumping off the table!

To adjust anaesthetic depth simply reduce the setting on the vaporiser and you can increase your flow rate to get a quicker depth change.